What REALLY is a Heli Skiing Company?
WOULD YOU BOOK A HELISKI TRIP WITH THIS OPERATOR? LOL!
I'm going to speculate for a moment here...
I'm guessing that no one on the planet has spent more time reviewing Google search results for heli skiing regions, locations, companies and operators than I have.
It's just a guess...
But...if it took me 300 hours of personal effort to publish and review published pages on this site, then I spent 2 - 3 X that many hours just looking at other sites and blog posts...all specifically about heli skiing of course! That's a lot of browsing online! It's been fun...I've seen a bunch of really cool stuff!
Yet, much of the browsing was to discern the integrity of the content we were considering curating onto our site. And that penetrating research into the depths and subtle nuances of content online has been very revealing!
It Doesn't Take Much to Launch a Heli Skiing Website
Of course I'm not talking about heli-skier.com! Our site has been the result of a very significant effort, and we don't pretend to be a heli skiing operator!
BUT...there are quite a few "posers" across the globe who put up websites and present heli skiing services. Let's start to refine our focus by "disqualifying" some search results.
As an example, if you we searching for options in France, but you didn't know that heli skiing is not allowed in France, you might search for "heli skiing Chamonix."
In the search results, the first five pages are travel blogs that look like they might be of help! But none of these are heli skiing operators. These are not the sites your interested in gleaning more information from:
How about an EVEN MORE confusing search!
Let's say you were ambitious enough to consider going heli skiing in Nepal. WOW! I mean who wouldn't, right? You get to tell your friends you practically skied Everest! So you begin your search...
If you would like the "full breakdown" of what we discovered here...just click over to our Nepal page. It's SKETCHY! Nearly all of the content is inconsistent and doesn't stimulate confidence prior to the travel outreach stage of planning...
The first company advertises itself as Heliski Adventures, yet the Title of its description is HHSG Heliski Nepal. Yet, when you click to get in, you See Heliskiing Consultants LTD. So you begin to question the integrity of the information. Maybe they provide a great experience! Who knows! Maybe we get lots of comments on our page, and we find out more...
The second result looks cool. A site called "totalheliski" with a description encouraging you to "Heli Ski Majestic Nepal." You think, great! Let's check it out. The most obvious "tell" when I investigate an operator is a navigation showing locations all over the world. Its possible, yet very unlikely. And that content inside speaks to the CORE of the message we're presenting here: CAUTION. As it urns out, this "totalheliski" site is the creation of an adventure seeker named Haley Melidonis. I give her plenty of credit for her accomplishments and intent to solicit clients to go heli skiing around the world, but she's NOT an operator. She admits to being an booking agent, and that's ok. It just takes some time to figure that out on her site. Cute picture though...and cool bio!
And when you continue to browse the following results, it just gets even more diluted from there. You don't find much credible information that will boost your confidence enough to begin the outreach phase of your travel planning.
When you are searching for heli skiing operators online, what you find are the following:
- Heli-Skier.com: Our 3rd-party site providing a universal, unbiased resource for all things heli skiing!
- Heli Skiing Operator Pages: These are legitimate operators employing AMGA-IFMGA guides to take you into their terrain.
- Booking Agents: These are few and far between. On this site, I have mentioned that Arctic Helisking has used EA Heliskiing as an agent. As mentioned, I'm impressed with their site.
- Travel Bloggers: You'll see these results frequently. They provide moderate value to your quest...at best.
- Random: mountain guides, entrepreneurs and who knows what! These sites will provide no value to your quest.
At heli-skier, we have done the hard work for you. We have only presented on our site heli skiing operators that:
- Our team has being skiing with and we can endorse these operators
- Sites and operators where we have done enough research where we feel comfortable in adding them here.
Heli Skiing Operations - The Critical Elements
Without stating a bunch of B.S. that I don't know, I'll tell you what I DO know...
Heli skiing operators typically do NOT own their helicopters. They lease them.
For instance, with Arctic Heli Skiing in Iceland, they lease / rent / temporarily acquire the use of their aircraft from a company in Austria. They ship them over for the season, then ship them back. Helicopters are a very expensive asset to own, so it make no sense to have an expensive asset sit dormant and unused during an off-season.
I've had conversations with one of the owners at Bear Paw in Prince George B.C. and multiple conversations with guides at Selkirk Tangiers in Revelstoke. Neither of these legitimate operators own the helicopters that they use during the season. And in British Columbia, there exists significant demand in the summer for other uses of the aircraft such as the Ministry of Forests and from summertime recreation, like biking, hijing, etc. So these very expensive machines to own AND operate go where they are contracted and needed on a seasonal basis.
The bottom line...you need helicopters, but they don't have to be yours (to run a heli skiing operation.)
In the heart of international heli skiing - British Columbia, the terrain is granted by the Canadian Ministry of Forests and three other government agencies. it is described as "tenure." The initial grant is for five years. If the operator has performed in a satisfactory manner, then they are awarded a long-term lease (I believe it's 35 years.)
I'm told that there is no more available tenure for lease in B.C. It's a closed game - a limited resource. So in B.C. it's HIGHLY regulated.
In the U.S., it's very similar. The Forest Service is typically the body governing the use of the land. And in some mountain states such as Montana, it's a NO GO. The community and the environmentalists have put their foot down.
Outside of the U.S. and Canada, we have limited knowledge of terrain management, but without the snow, you can't go skiing!
Without a pilot, you're not getting airborne!
Heli skiing pilots often have military experience. But one thing is for sure..THEY ARE LEGIT!
They typically have several THOUSAND hours behind the stick before you meet them, so the are VERY experienced.
YET, they are not typically employed by the heli skiing operator. They are "hired guns," just like the helicopters. They are a necessity to the operation, but not part of the operation.
In some European operations you pay for the helicopter and the pilot separately. That demonstrates the independence of those two interconnected components of the whole operation.
for instance, when it comes to tipping (at Selkirk Tangiers), it is recommended that skiers tip the pilots independently of tipping your guide.
While standing around with Mike Royer, who is the heir apparent to his family's Ruby Mountain Heli-ski operation, we were waiting to approach our last descent. I asked him what it takes to get certified as a guide. It's a massive commitment of guide certification, rescue certification and first aid response training. It's serious stuff.
You want a guiding team that is not only very familiar with the terrain, but that is prepare to act in an adverse situation.
The American Mountain Guides Association is the entity that provides certification in the states. Outside of the U.S. it's the IFMGA. If your heli skiing operator does not employ guides that have these certifications, you should look elsewhere. These ARE the standards.
Don't ski without them.
There are three answers to this question, 'Where are you going to stay?"
# 1: "Oh! You're going to come stay with us!" and
# 2: "Well...You can stay with them...or maybe over there...or wherever..." AND
# 3: "What? Why do you ask?" (You'll be gone by the end of the day...)
If your operator has a destination lodge, it's safe to say that they are legitimate. BUT WAIT...there is a twist! Or two...
Heli Skiing Destination Lodges
There are a few locations on the planet where legitimate operators have not OWNED large lodges or ranches that they have leased. They do this to provide a destination experience, presumably within their tenure! I can think of one example where Northern Escape Heliskiing switched their destination ranch location. When we originally did our research it was a one ranch, then recently they switched that destination to the Skeena Spey Wilderness Lodge. I believe I saw the other lodge for sale. I'm assuming they don't own either. These are expensive assets, just like helicopters! For real estate, there exists significant carrying costs, like taxes, maintenance and insurance. So it make sense in the winter to lease a B.C. hunting or fishing lodge that is not utilized during the summer off-season.
The true oddballs...but potentially profitable...who knows...are the pieces of real estate that are OWNED for adventure use!
"Bighorn" in Revelstoke is a prime example. This extremely luxurious 15,000 sq. foot, 8 stateroom property with it's own heli-pad has been built, primarily for heli skiing visitors. It is said to be used for private groups skiing with CMH Revelstoke, Eagle Pass Heliski and Selkirk Tangiers clients.
Eleven Experience seems to be taking a similar approach to adventure accommodations. They offer at least five different skiing locations throughout the globe, including a property in Chile and another in Iceland.
Community Accommodations for Heli Skiers
Many heli skiing operators do offer multi-day packages, but do not have destination lodges. They just are not set up that way. You simply stay at a hotel. Or perhaps you stay at the resort hotel such as Hotel Alyeska in Alaska, where Chugach Powder Guides operates from. This setup is not that uncommon. Bottom line, you stay close at a recommended hotel. On a rare occasion like the Hilcrest Hotel in Revelstoke where Selkirk currently operates from until 24-25, the big corporation owns the whole thing!
Why Do WE Care Where You Stay?!!!
When booking a day of heli skiing or even a few runs, an operator is not concerned about your accommodations. Therefore, that piece is not included or part of their offer.
Legitimate heli skiing operators nearly always post package and pricing options. If they don't, they have put enough attention into developing their website where you're not concerned, and you simply inquire. It's pretty obvious.
That tends to be another "tell" on an operators site: Are they clearly trying to navigate you towards package options, so you can begin your decisioning process, If yes, then you've got a legit one! Package options almost always include:
- Larger Group
- Semi-Private, Smaller Group (in an A-Star helicopter)
- Private.
That's the typical setup...and where the money is made.
Is This a Heli Skiing Company or Heli Skiing Operator?
A certified mountain guide with plenty of heli skiing experience likely has the connections...but is he a heli skiing operator?
- Does he know a company that can provide helicopters? Probably...
- Does he know other guides throughout the globe who have experience in that area and can facilitate your trip? Probably...
- Can he get access to terrain your interested in? Who knows?
- Can he tell you which hotel to stay in and have someone come pick you upon arrival? Sure...
- Does he have enough connections to get the right, reliable pilots who know the terrain? Maybe...
- Can he take your booking? Why of course.
The overarching point of this whole post is to point out that facilitating a heli skiing trip is just a matter of collecting all the components and "operating' them in harmony. Any "Joe" can claim that he's a heli-skiing operator!
The bottom line is...there are a lot of websites online that claim they have the goods and want to book your trip. Caveat Emptor...let The Buyer Beware.
I think we have made our point!
See you up in the heli!
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BRADY
5/9/23
Brady is an avid skiing & backcountry enthusiast, aging "big wave" surfer and is totally addicted to heliskiing!
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